PFC Bradley Manning has apparently (operative word apparently) been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Kit Up! Pvt. Manning nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize

 

We posted this link last night on our Facebook page and, not unexpectedly, received about 30 responses in less time than it took us to recover from our nausea.

If news reports are correct, then PFC Bradley Manning has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Edit: he was nominated, but not in an official, internationally recognized capacity.]

Our response was WTFO? We respect your right to disagree, of course. We can even maybe sort of see how the committee came to their way of thinking, though we disagree with it completely, and regardless, we think he absolutely deserves his court martial (personally, we don’t believe he was motivated by anything altruistic, but that’s what trials are for). What do you think?

Here’s the alleged letter nominating him. There are several places reporting it so far.

EDIT: For more information on the actual nomination process and who may be nominated:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomination/nominators.html

 

We have the great honor of nominating Private First Class Bradley Manning for the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize. Manning is a soldier in the United States army who stands accused of releasing hundreds of thousands of documents to the whistleblower website WikiLeaks. The leaked documents pointed to a long history of corruption, war crimes, and imperialism by the United States government in international dealings. These revelations have fueled democratic uprising around the world, including a democratic revolution in Tunisia.

According to journalists, his alleged actions helped motivate the democratic Arab Spring movements, shed light on secret corporate influence on our foreign policies, and most recently contributed to the Obama Administration agreeing to withdraw all U.S.troops from the occupation in Iraq. 

Bradley Manning has been incarcerated for well over a year by the U.S. government without a trial. He spent over ten months of that time period in solitary confinement, conditions which experts worldwide have criticized as torturous. Juan Mendez, the United Nations’ Special Rapporteur on Torture and Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment or Punishment, has repeatedly requested and been denied a private meeting with Manning to assess his conditions. 

The documents made public by WikiLeaks should never have been kept from public scrutiny. The revelations – including video documentation of an incident in which American soldiers gunned down Reuters journalists in Iraq – have helped to fuel a worldwide discussion about America’s overseas engagements, civilian casualties of war, imperialistic manipulations, and rules of engagement.

Citizens worldwide owe a great debt to the WikiLeaks whistleblower for shedding light on these issues, and so I urge the Committee to award this prestigious prize to accused whistleblower Bradley Manning.

Sincerely,

Birgitta Jónsdóttir

Margrét Tryggvadóttir

Þór Saari

Members of the Icelandic Parliament for The Movement

 

 

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defensor fortissimo February 7, 2012 at 4:37 am

The question is at this point do we even really care? If the Nobel commision has proven anything over the years it's that they are easily impressed. At the risk of opening a can of worms, our current commander in chief received one for being elected, not for actually doing anything. Jimmy Carter and Yasser Arafat both proved that the only prerequisite for receiving one was hating Israel, in Arafat's case, actually negotiating was optional. This crap goes back as far as Theodore Roosevelt, (for the record one of my all time favorite presidents), receiving one for ending the Russo-Japanese war and subsequently leading to the destabilization of the Russian empire and the rise of the soviet union AND a pretext for Japanese imperialism that we'd all grow to know and love so well 30 years later

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Trevor February 7, 2012 at 4:43 am

Personally, I believe he is guilty of treason, and yet still a good candidate for the Nobel. Many peace prize winners have been criminals in their own country. His treason is only a crime against one country, but the documents that he leaked have done much and more for the rest of the world. I'm not saying that Manning and Wikileaks caused the Arab Spring, Occupy Wall Street, or the current resistance to ACTA, SOPA, and other copyright reforms worldwide, but I do believe that they were instrumental in demonstrating that the truth will be free.

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Tom February 7, 2012 at 5:03 am

They should change it to the Neville Chamberlain Peace prize.

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 5:09 am

We live in a dangerous world where such actions qualify you for a Peace Nobel prize.
This will just encourage other PFCs with TS clearances to go ahead and think its okay to steal and leak information. If you do not agree with what the Service is asking you to do – simply get out – that is why we still have all voluntary service. Get out and drink your non fat latte with whip cream and sprinkles and occupy some space downtown.

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 5:11 am

At least the award will look nice in his prison cell…

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SFC YOUNG February 7, 2012 at 5:14 am

The prize is a joke just as the reason behind the creation of the award. How about we look at some of the reasons people have gotten this award. How many were for bringing peace to the middle east i.e. Israel and palestine? Obama won it for……. yeah still don't know why. Who really cares about this award anyway. It is just an award were tree hugging hippie yuppies can give an award to other like minded individuals for trying to do something.

P.S. Why haven't we put a round in Manning yet? While we are at it why haven't his first line leaders and command been thrown out? From my experiences dealing with 2nd BDE 10th MTN they really need it.

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Jason February 7, 2012 at 5:20 am

It is important to remember that anyone can make a nomination to the nobel committee. There are no qualifications or filters on who can be nominated or who can do the nominating. Therefore, being nominated is not really a sign of being honored, except by the individual group that proposed the nomination.
That said, the choice of winners is certainly lacking in some years.

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Johnny Quest February 7, 2012 at 5:40 am

What ever happened to executions for treason?

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Out on Mean Street February 7, 2012 at 5:46 am

Hang him. Hang him right next to Hanoi Jane.

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 5:50 am

Luke and four others like this

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T-9 February 7, 2012 at 6:33 am

The list of winners and nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize are nothing more than a rogues gallery of leftist commies anyway, so… it's not surprising at all.

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JP February 7, 2012 at 6:41 am

The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. Manning should be in prison the rest of his days turning big rocks into small ones.

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John February 7, 2012 at 6:41 am

Make that five.

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StevenS February 7, 2012 at 8:58 am

Make that 6

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Jess February 7, 2012 at 9:20 am

Make that 7

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FormerSFMedic February 7, 2012 at 7:09 am

I think all this does is make the NPP look like a freakin' joke. I guess it already looks like a joke when Obama can get one for not doing anything at all. This POS betrayed his country, plain and simple. He doesn't deserve a prize for it!

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Riceball February 7, 2012 at 7:38 am

Agreed. I hope they lock him up in Leavenworth for a long, long time and hope he'll have fun making little rocks from big ones. This nomination almost makes Obama's winning of it look legit. It seems to me that the committee behind the Prize is made up of a bunch leftist, bleeding hearted liberals that hate America.

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Bill February 7, 2012 at 7:53 am

But you could also argue that the information he brought to light shows many people who also betrayed their country. Just because others are higher on the totem pole, does not excuse their actions either.

A lot would write off a lot of US backdoor deals as "necessary evils" in maintaining US superiority, which then betrays the core values that the country was founded on.

There was more in those cables than the Apache video, such as information on a US contractor financially involved trafficking of children. So there is SOME merit to his actions.

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Go Navy! February 7, 2012 at 8:48 am

FormerSFMedic: I am with you on this. This guy didn't do anything other than LEAK information out into the public. In regards to the Journalist being shot, he was imbedded with insurgents. That is the risk he took. Also our enemy doesn't wear nice uniforms that identify them as a combatant. The difference between a civilian and an insurgent is if he carry an AK/RPG/PKM at that particular moment.

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David K. February 7, 2012 at 7:13 am

Blood Eagle. it is the only appropriate punishment for him and others like him.

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Anon February 7, 2012 at 7:17 am

What's with all these recent "troll" articles. Kit Up is better than this. It seems to be attempting to "stir the pot" to achieve more hits.

P.S. Watch the video "Collateral Murder," then ask any Army Air Corps pilot what they think. And why you should CLEARLY PID a target before engaging? And before you comeback with "its war stupid!" and "the camera could of been a gun," put aside the "KILL, KILL, KILL" of Basic and ask yourself are their actions in accordance with the army ethos of "Honour, Respect and Humility in Victory!"

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lol February 7, 2012 at 7:57 am

If you watch the full length version it is quite obvious that members of the group are armed. Which means the reuters guys were putting their lives at risk knowingly

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Tom February 7, 2012 at 8:09 am

"It seems to be attempting to “stir the pot” to achieve more hits."
Duh.

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 8:26 am

Look, if you embed yourself with insurgents who roam the streets with AKs and RPGs (clearly the guy peeking around the corner had one) while US troops are under fire (listen to the communication between troops) they I have nothing to say to you. It is ****** about the kids. yes. Having two of my own it did not feel right.
To be honest I compare this to people who want to sky dive and die, people who want to bungee jump and die, people who want to mess with nature and die (Steve Erwin). They took the risk and everyone is surprised and upset when something bad happened to them, and of course its everyone else's fault. Take responsibility for your own dumb actions. I stand with the pilots. I would have done the same thing in their shoes.

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Anon February 7, 2012 at 9:00 am

P.S. I apologise for taking this away from topic. I'm just a massive "gun-perve" and don't really care for the politics. Which makes my last comment reek of hypocrisy.

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Morgan February 7, 2012 at 9:17 am

Also, do yourself a favor and watch the full video. Members of the party on the ground can be seen clearly carrying AK's and at least on RPG. Clear to me anyways.

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Anon February 7, 2012 at 10:32 am

I seem to of been misunderstood. Honestly, I respect Luke's comment. Seriously, I do. Not all of it mind you. What I should have clarified is that I do not have a problem with the engagement of enemy-combatants. I even acknowledge that the journalists were "in the wrong place at the wrong time." I object to this Ref: 9:43 & 15:27. But this might be me being pedantic.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

- Out

Lasse February 7, 2012 at 7:52 am

Here is what the Norwegian Nobel foundation in the nomination guidelines:

"According to the Nobel foundation counts a nomination valid if it's proposed by a person with-in one (or more) of the follow categories:
- Members of national assemblies and governments, and members of the Inter-Parliamentary Union"

So these guys in "The Movement" from Iceland, who are in the Icelandic Parliament, are allowed to nominate Manning and the nomination is valid according to the Nobel foundation.
You might not like it at all, but since it's a democracy, they are allowed to nominate whoever they want.. Something something about freedom and some about freedom of speech.

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Jack Murphy February 7, 2012 at 8:26 am

It sounds to me like the Nobel Peace prize committee is just trolling the public to try to get a rise out of us in a sad attempt to show that this "honor" is still relevant in some way. I mean, they gave it to Obama while he simultaneously waged like six wars, depending on who is counting.

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T February 7, 2012 at 8:42 am

I think Manning is probably on the right side of history, but by way of betraying and endangering his comrades and country. All this adds up to: Whether he rots in prison or gets some Icelandic clowns to give him a "Nobel Jr.", or both, I don't give two sh*ts about what happens to him.

Can we go back to talking about guns now?

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xcalbr February 7, 2012 at 9:45 am

You don't want my opinion on this one, but i find it horribly ironic that manning has become the epitome of treason while worst offenders go unnoticed.

Violating the UCMJ has consequences…whether he is designated as a whistle blower or traitor.

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Larry February 7, 2012 at 9:51 am

Good point Jason,

I did a quick Google search on this and it turns out the nomination came from some minor parliamentary party in Iceland. Sort of like our Green party making a nomination to further their political philosophy. Here is an extract from an article on the IBTimes website, http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/294531/20120207/b

"On Saturday, Icelandic member of parliament Birgitta Jónsdóttir posted a nomination letter on her blog on behalf of the three-member parliamentary group The Movement, proposing suspected WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning as a candidate for the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize. Nobel Peace Prize nominations can be submitted by any member of a national assembly, among others."

Anyway, I doubt that it will make the first cut when they come to reviewing the nominations.

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Kevin February 7, 2012 at 9:56 am

Sorry if I'm being a ****, but Manning is a F**king traitor, and he's shaken the trust our national government puts in its serving men and women. Not to mention he's going to make it harder for potential security clearance candidates (like myself).

I can see how a certain 'detached' portion of society could imagine him a hero, but he's not. He's compromised our national security, and the people nominating him seem to overlook this. Since when do cocky little whistle blowers deserve NPPs?

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 2:30 pm

yeah. get ready for the updated 572 pages long SF86!

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RANGER75 February 7, 2012 at 10:02 am

I didn't know they renamed it "The Jane Fonda Peace prize"!?! When did this happen!?!

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JDsHandsomeSon February 7, 2012 at 10:20 am

I'll make a prediction, that as bad as even the nomination of a guy like Manning for NPP is, it will get worse. I will predict that some day in the future, when these Mideast wars are over, Manning and those like him will be offered to us as heroes, the real "patriots", in the same way the Left from the '60s have sold themselves since that war ended. I wouldn't be surprised to see him some day run for office and even be elected in some place like California, Massachusetts or New York.

Ridiculous? Don't bet on it.

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Neal February 7, 2012 at 10:24 am

Second.

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dethenigma February 7, 2012 at 10:34 am

~ personally…

He committed – TREASON – plain and simple..

end result… "death"

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Reid February 7, 2012 at 10:41 am

Mountain out of a molehill. Just about anyone can nominate just about anybody for the Peace prize. This is really a non-story. The whole substance is two folks in Iceland belonging to "the Icelandic Parlement for the Movement" whatever that is, are being silly. Don't get yourself all worked up about it.

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robert February 7, 2012 at 10:42 am

Whoa, whoa, whoa. All you have to do to get nominated for a "peace" prize is commit treason, precipitate a series of bloody uprisings that cause the destabilization of dozens of governments and deaths of hundreds of thousands, and rot in jail for those crimes? Did Pol Pot get one? Hitler? Bert the muppet? Surely if Manning meets the requirements for bringing "peace" to the world, other more deserving criminals are out there.

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Lance February 7, 2012 at 10:42 am

They can shove his peace prize down his throat as they just about to hang the coward.

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The Mad Duo February 7, 2012 at 10:53 am

Figured this would spark some folks up. ANON and TOM; this was posted here because we figured it would be of interest to our largely military readership. Not trying to troll anything to get more hits…so we're clear, there's nothing to gain for us by "getting more hits". Most KU writers are volunteers anyway, and (oddly, by our reckoning) military.com doesn't really advertise towards this specific demographic on here. Not sure why that is but look. Most of it is colleges and home loans not LBE and gun furniture…anyway there is no payoff or gain for more readership. We try to write about things we'd like to read if our positions were reversed. If the consensus of the readership is to stay away from stories like this, fair enough, but if you're looking for an ulterior motive you wont find one. Jack, Bill, Matt, Dave, Pat and Brandon will have to speak for themselves of course, but there's nothing in place to reward increased readership accept for the opportunity to interact with a bigger number of readers.

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Reid February 7, 2012 at 11:00 am

I think the problem is that you badly missattributed the source of the action here. He was not nominated by the Committee but by two weirdos in Iceland with no known ties to the Nobel organization. I think you needed to check your sources better or perhaps review how you characterize things. Easy mistake to make mind you.

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The Mad Duo February 7, 2012 at 11:09 am

Fair enough!

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Reid February 7, 2012 at 11:16 am

Would you like me to nominate you for the Peace Prize. I think you need to be a professor or a Non-profit but I bet we could swing it. :-)

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The Mad Duo February 7, 2012 at 11:23 am

That would be cool! Though not sure you qualify (posted the FAQs from the Committee). However, since we have joked in some of our op-ed about hippie pogroms and the public caning of selfish officers and ****** NCOs, we might not get voted in. Give it a whirl though, damn skippy!

The Mad Duo February 7, 2012 at 11:17 am

See edits, including information on the nomination process. The nomination process may actually have been followed here, prior to the Committee reviewing nominations.

Looks like if you're an official member of the government you can nominate just about anybody. In any case, we'll be more articulate (or try to be) in the future.

Still think Manning should be court-martialed.

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HalP February 7, 2012 at 10:56 am

Icelandic Parliament? No wonder. They got nuthin' better to do. Poor folks are probably bored out of their minds and decided to start a fuss to entertain themselves.

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bl8ant February 7, 2012 at 10:56 am

So that means you are in favor of being complicit in war crimes. What Manning revealed were clear and illegal uses of power, He exposed once and for all ,and for all who have had to return and live with the atrocities they've been brainwashed to accept , that the military has to be held accountable if it wants to continue to solicit to the youth of it's country for service. There is no more honor , only shame..and you are assimilated so you won't have an authentic answer anymore. Good luck with that.

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Luke February 7, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Which information that he leaked proved a war crime?

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mpower6428 February 7, 2012 at 12:33 pm

we're all better off that bradley manning did what he did. forget about the stupid "apache vid/reuters journalists", the daily statistics of how the war was being prosecuted were the real eye opener. the way those statistics were compiled and coolated was a sick joke. any buearocracy , even a military buearocracy, can normalize stupidity. "just feed the machine" seemed to be priority number one.

bradley blew the whistle. he's being punished for embarressing overpaid military brass for revealing just how incompitent their leadership was.

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xpoqx February 7, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Gentlemen, I am here because I want to read about firearms, warfighting equipment, special operations forces and so on. I do not care for the politics, especially one regarding such a trivial matter, yes it was treason and last I remember commiting treason resulted in death… But it's not my call and I should not have an opinion in the matter, this is the military's problem and they shall handle it accordingly.

Now please shut the f*ck up about this political bullsh*t and go back to talking about guns and equipment. Keep the politricks outta here…

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Anon February 7, 2012 at 1:56 pm

I can honestly say… your comment has, quite literally, given me wood!

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Jim37F February 7, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Since when is the cause of peace helped by working to create international incidents?

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lol February 7, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Well if anyone can nominate any one.
Can I write a flowery letter to award the US service member?

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Nick T. February 7, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Third.

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Nick V February 7, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Obama's dumb *** got one, I wouldn't be surprised if he got one too..

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Long Thrust VI February 7, 2012 at 4:42 pm

As already mentioned, the Nobel Peace Prize is meaningless. Wasn't President Obama awarded one even before he got completely moved into the White House?

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bbb February 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm

This is a more complicated issue than most of you seem to think it is…

I mean, by an large most of the information leaked was stuff that we as American citizens had the right to know, but as a US soldier he committed at least dereliction of duty by leaking it.

Now, if he had just leaked the helicopter video, he'd be a whistle-blower, but since his leaking of tens of thousands of files shows clear intent to do harm to the U.S. military (possibly out of some sense of persecution for being gay?), he can be called a traitor in the colloquial sense.

However, can you really call the crime committed treason unless he actually helped an enemy directly? Most of the files are just after-action reports… it's not like he secretly sent troop movement and location information to enemy commanders during war time, resulting in friendly casualties.

Clearly he went way too far, but I think calling for his death is idiotic.

Obviously he doesn't deserve to be rewarded, though. I think a DD and 5-10 with option for parole is more appropriate considering the actual harm done.

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Brandon Webb February 7, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Two Words. Turd Burgular. -BW

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Corsair8X February 7, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Leaking stuff out of spite does not constitute honor nor nobility. Didn't realize that revenge was a qualifier. Next, Assange will be the next head of the UN

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krieg February 7, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Didnt the obama admin state they were pulling troops out of iraq before he did his realease of documents

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Kevin V. February 7, 2012 at 8:16 pm

If the court-martial found him guilty of treason, would the death penalty still be applied?
That is all I care about… seeing this P.O.S. pay with his life for what he did!

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Bullgator February 7, 2012 at 8:57 pm

NPP is a joke, as well as the B.S. idiots that nominated this ******-bag. I say pin it on him while he's swinging on the neck stretcher.

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majrod February 7, 2012 at 9:14 pm

Ditto, what war crime?

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majrod February 7, 2012 at 9:38 pm

Hate it when some cool aid drinker runs after being called out and then leaves a link to their propaganda.

The video fails to say the insurgents the reporters were embedded with just shot up a US patrol. Then it goes to great length to point out the reporters and black blobs that later prove to be cameras while ignoring the men with the AK’s. The video fails to say the enemy used civilian vehicles to move men, munitions and weapons around nor is it required by the Geneva Convention to allow wounded to be evacuated (that’s how you take prisoners) or to engage vehicles not marked as ambulances.

No war crime but plenty of ignorance by those that don’t understand the ROE/rules of war and/or have never been in that situation.
“Don’t start nuthin’, won’t be nuthin’!” – Will Smith from MIB

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majrod February 7, 2012 at 9:53 pm

KitUp RARELY puts up issues like this. Count how many plugs there have been for the upcoming SEAL movie.

Feel free to whine. It's your right (and mine also) but the subjects are both people who visit here want to read.

BTW, you'd love Iran and N. Korea. No politics just the party line and national happiness.

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Mang February 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm

Agreed. Also, this article is pretty well outside the scope of a gear blog, IMHO. Be mad about this if that's how you feel, but does it belong in Kit Up?

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Mang February 7, 2012 at 10:17 pm

Yeah honestly, the Mad Duo is doing social commentary in a gear blog. This isn't the humor content I expect from their guest spots. Why is this article on Kit Up?

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Mang February 7, 2012 at 10:26 pm

Spoiler: it shouldn't be here at all. This is the opposite of a gear or tactics feature. People got mad about Rolexes, but at least that's topical.

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Noah February 7, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Hey, *** is wrong with expensive showcats?!?

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Bullgator February 8, 2012 at 12:07 am

Oh as for the gear i would use…. a bottle cap with NPP scratched in it, some 550 cord, and a tree. Low cost and the traitor gets what's coming to him, the award and the sentence he deserves.

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The Dude February 8, 2012 at 12:17 am

After all he has leaked the government has yet to show one real victim. If the leak was so dangerous where are all these people he "placed in danger." Face it, all he did was tell the truth and now the mob of America has turned on him. No one should be treated like this for simply telling the truth. Our own government lied to us, he exposed it, and we turn him into the enemy. I wouldn't award him the prize, but I think he is more deserving of it than others (Obama).

For the record I am a member of the ACLU, I didn't play any instrument in the Corps, and Han shot first.

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"

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Bullgator February 8, 2012 at 1:24 am

Dude, he swore an oath and signed a contract, why people want to make a hero out of this puke is beyond me. Who knows if he put people in harms way, hopefully he didn't, the bottom line is he was being paid by our tax money to NOT do what he did. I refuse to honor the honorless, the United States Army and the DoD trusted him with a clearance, and he took it upon himself to break that trust. The fact that there is the potential for our service members on those leaked reports to be even remotely affected by this warrants his current status.

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Justin February 8, 2012 at 3:11 am

I don't get it…. he didn't end the war, nor did he prevent atrocities from happening… so what warrants his nomination? Problem is, though is that if he wins the NPP, and gets punished for treason (which he should very well be)…. then people will make him out to be some form of a martyr.

If his actions did indeed put US or Allied forces in direct danger, then how would that constitute an act worthy of a Peace Prize?

Still, in my mind his actions were an act of treason.

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Sean February 8, 2012 at 4:37 am

This guy released Military classified docs to the world!
What a joke! The military does things that may not sit well with
everyone but we are a free country and always will be because there
are guys in the shadows doing things that are not do nice. Either way
He should be in prison!

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jake February 8, 2012 at 5:56 am

This pile of bird droppings is a classic "%$#@@!!!@#xx@!".He needs to be punished with military justice.

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tim February 8, 2012 at 7:30 am

come on guys, He was just exercising his new found freedom as a gay military man to express his feelings…apparently he was confused as to whether he was a man or woman, and during the gender confusion his loyalties got a little confused…just send him to Guantanamo with big bottle of tanning oil…the inmates there are always tolerant of women.

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Tony Verdibello February 8, 2012 at 7:36 am

There was NO war crime committed by Bradly.

On the other hand….gunning down civilians used to be called a war crime. Remember Lt. Calley at My Lai (Yes I am a Viet Nam vet)?

If a member of you family were gunned down by foreigners, you just might hold a grudge….for a long, long time; (WTC 9/11), got it?

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Dave February 8, 2012 at 8:24 am

The terrorists are winning. It used to be innocent until proven guilty. Last I heard – but I am in the UK – he had not had his day in court…

Remember too we (the Allies) changed military law in 1944 so we could prosecute Nazis, who until that time could legitimately claim they were 'only obeying orders'. Oath, contract, orders, call it what you will, sometimes you have to exercise personal responsibility and not pass the buck. 'National security' is often a blanket the powerful use for burying inconvenient truths. What is the point of freedom of speech if you are kept in ignorance?

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Riceball February 8, 2012 at 8:53 am

Except he wasn't being ordered to do anything illegal and as I understand it, he also didn't leak anything incriminating that showed some kind of war crime like another My Lai massacre, he just passed a ton of classified info to WikiLeaks without any care of what was contained within. So how is that taking personal responsibility except for anything but a gross dereliction of duty?

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Corey February 8, 2012 at 8:31 am

Just…wow. I highly doubt that he leaked all those documents for the common good. Pretty sure he did it for attention, if anything. He acted against the interests of the U.S. military and government, which he swore to protect when he took the oath to join up, and potentially endangered the lives of everyone in the military. Brave men and women were betrayed by one of their own. If you can't depend on the other people supporting you when your life is on the line, you can't depend on anyone. He committed treason, not some grand plan to overhaul corrupt or opaque practices. Some things need to be opaque in the name of national security. Maybe we'd like to know what's going on, but you know what, if we know, so does the enemy.

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ParatrooperJJ February 8, 2012 at 9:54 am

You are incorrect, only specific people can make nominations. See here: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomi

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majrod February 8, 2012 at 10:53 am

I think the SEAL that put three rounds in Bin Laden did a heck of a lot more for "WORLD PEACE" (Insert a picture of the Modanna's close at the superbowl) than callsign "Tinkerbell".

Woops, I said "SEAL" that means I gotta take a shot of scotch. New drinking game when reading Kit Up. Pick a special ops and take a shot whenever it's mentioned. SEAL is just about a guaranteed buzz every time you go through the top five stories. Don't play this with the M4 story. It's a guaranteed visit to the "stomach pump" machine at your local hospital.

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SpcPoole February 8, 2012 at 5:32 pm

To heck with Manning. If it were up to me a got a 45acp with his name on it and for the rest of the world. They can go F them self's I would like to see how safe there lives would be. If we were not out there keep the bad guys for getting to them.

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Civi223 February 8, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Bless all of our military for serving! May I please remind you all that our soldiers were thrown into Viet Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan under false pretenses making us illegal occupiers. Anyone who can bring criminal/unethical information to the forefront in these situations (like Dan Ellsberg) deserves to be honored. The video release hastened our exit from Iraq and essentially saved the lives of more U.S. soldiers!

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majrod February 8, 2012 at 11:48 pm

Brought to you by your friendly OWS protestor and the rights you defended for him.

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Slag February 8, 2012 at 9:31 pm

And so carried!

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Slag February 8, 2012 at 9:34 pm

I'd like to know how many warfighters have died because of his actions.

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Kilgore Jr. February 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

Chuck Norris should kill this ************ at the award ceremony.

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Dave March 18, 2012 at 5:26 am

manning is a weak *****. Of course it has already been proven that "weak *****" will get you a nobel prize………

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Jeffery March 22, 2012 at 9:14 am

I know a lot of you military look down on Bradley for what he did,but I was in the military and I support him,please let me explain why.I f I was a traitor and wanted to hurt all of you over there I would have sent your locations directly to the enemy,Bradley could have done the same,but he did not!He didn't want any of you killed.He gain excess to evidence that our own government was committing crimes and using some of you to help commit them.I know not all of you were involved with these war crimes.This is why he's being punished.We took an oath to protect the people of the U.S. not a corrupt government.Bradley was trying to do the right thing.Your generals have been paid off to give unlawful orders.The government is trying to use him as an example to all of you.Our government wants you to be their puppets.If I thought Bradley was a real traitor,then yes punish him,but he is no traitor.If you think he's a traitor go visit him in prison and ask him why he didn't give out the locations of our troops.He will tell you he didn't want to get any of you killed.That's if they let you see him,or have you to lie about your conversation with him to people. You support a government that took away your friends and families rights(NDAA),your oath says you are to fight for these rights for your people,why didn't you.How can I support the military branches now,if they can't support Bradley Manning for trying to do the right thing.Brothers and Sisters Bradley is no traitor and he needs your support.Forgive him and let him redeem himself in your eyes.If this was one of you in Bradley's place I would ask the same thing.

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