LAW_Tactical_ARfolder6I got the chance to spend the time with Mike Pettingill and Zachary Law (the guys behind Law Tactical) on the last day of SHOT and I’m glad I did. As of just a couple months ago they completed their Gen2 Folding Stock Adapter for ARs. To say I was extremely impressed with it after going through the entire backstory and explanation is to damn it with faint praise. Within its niche, which is to say for those people who need it, this is going to be a good accessory.

There are a number of reasons for folding a stock, but ultimately it boils down to shortening the weapon, whether for storage or concealment. You can only reduce the front end (by shortening the barrel) by so much. To really get down to stash-in-a-backpack size you need to do something with the stock. Hence this piece from Law Tactical.

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Now, I’m not going into all the details about why this works here. Instead I’ve asked Zach and Mike to watch the article and respond to your questions or concerns. I will give you a brief rundown, though, to spare redundancy and the basic questions.

  • LAW_Tactical_ARfolder3It will only fire one round while it’s folded and nothing going to come flying out the back end and harpoon your face when you pull the trigger (or so I am assured).
  • It will work on any caliber AR frame weapon. 5.56mm, .223, .308, .300 BLK, etc.
  • It is compatible with direct impingement or gas piston systems and will function with A2, carbine, MilSpec or commercial buffer tubes and stocks.
  • The adapter is user adjusted for hinge tension.
  • It has been strengthened and the profile lowered since Gen 1.
  • One test model has had over 4,000 rounds through it so far without any failures or compromise.
  • It unfolds to fire in less than 1 second, requiring no fine motor skills.
  • Has an integral QD sling attachment
  • Designed, built and assembled in the USA from CNC machined, hard-anodized aluminum.
  • The adaptor does not affect gun function unfolded. The rear portion of the adapter is built to the same specifications as a standard receiver to ensure maximum compatibility. An integrated single point sling attachment point is included.

 

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From a motorcycle officer: PWS MK 107 Diablo 5.56 with a Law Tactical folding stock adapter. Total length is 18 inches folded. The bike is a BMW 1200RTP. “I am able to carry my AR 15 with me on my motorcycle. In an active shooter situation our motor unit will be the first ones on the scene. This will give me another option besides my handgun.”

Okay: ask your questions. I’ll let Law Tactical know to watch and respond.

 

That’s it for now. Go forth and conquer.

{ 30 comments… read them below or add one }

Dave January 21, 2013 at 7:04 am

How much weight does the carrier extension add to the buffer system and is it recommended to step down in buffer weight if the user's already using a fairly heavy buffer?

I take it the rifle can technically fire once with the stock folded (though it's obviously not recommended), but cannot cycle in that condition. If the rifle were to fire in that condition (again, not recommended but for the sake of learning lets say that due to extreme circumstances it happened just once) would the rifle be in a condition to be unfolded, re-charged, and brought into action at that time or should it be considered damaged and not be used until it could be inspected by an armorer?

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Travis January 21, 2013 at 8:03 am

I imagine the included bolt retention pin will hold the bolt carrier group in place to allow you fire that one shot if you need to, but will damage it to the point that it won't function afterward. You will have to disassemble, remove, and/or replace the unit to get it working again.

I love this. How would it hold up if unfolded and used in a buttstroke?

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Law Tactical January 21, 2013 at 8:21 am

The bolt carrier extension adds 2.1oz. For most rifles/carbines/sbrs it is not nessaasary to changes buffers. If your weapon has been tuned with a very heavy buffer or to use very light loads, the buffer weight can be stepped down to retune for the added carrier weight.

With the stock folded the rifle would still have the ability to fire if a round were in the chamber and it was off safe. If you had an AD/ND in the folded posistion the bolt carrier group would be retained by the blocking finger to prevent injury, but damage to the adaptor may occur. Specifically the housing around the blocking finger can deform, locking the system. During development we tested a stronger housing that would not bow but found that damage to the lower reciever was occouring. We have designed the adaptor to be damaged rather than damage your serialized receiver.

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Axel January 21, 2013 at 7:47 am

How durable is the locking mechanism when unfolded? Can you slam it on accident w/out breaking it? How about holding it at the stock for long periods of time of rough terrain?

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Axel January 21, 2013 at 7:50 am

It looks alright but until get my hands on it of word from someone who has, I'll be the judge of that.

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Law Tactical January 21, 2013 at 8:26 am

The steel locking lug has been redesigned and tested, hanging over 400lbs from it without deforming.

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Law Tactical January 21, 2013 at 8:13 am

The bolt carrier extension adds 2.1oz. For most rifles/carbines/sbrs it is not nessaasary to changes buffers. If your weapon has been tuned with a very heavy buffer or to use very light loads, the buffer weight can be stepped down to retune for the added carrier weight.

With the stock folded the rifle would still have the ability to fire if a round were in the chamber and it was off safe. If you had an AD/ND in the folded posistion the bolt carrier group would be retained by the blocking finger to prevent injury, but damage to the adaptor may occur. Specifically the housing around the blocking finger can deform, locking the system. During development we tested a stronger housing that would not bow but found that damage to the lower reciever was occouring. We have designed the adaptor to be damaged rather than damage your serialized reciever.

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Jack Reacher January 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

Thanks for the insight, Law Tactical. Always good to hear from the manufacturer firsthand.

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dustin January 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

does it need an armorer or can any idiot like myself with tools install it?

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Law Tactical January 21, 2013 at 6:26 pm

The skill level for installation is equal to replacing an A2 stock and buffer tube with a carbine stock and buffer tube. It is however recommended that any firearms modification be preformed by a certified gunsmith or armorer.

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PS6 January 21, 2013 at 5:23 pm

watch the installation video to see if you have the skills to do it yourself.

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Bob M January 21, 2013 at 7:12 pm

My question is about which stocks would work with this system. I noticed that the two example stocks (A2 and CTR) are both thin stocks. What about stocks that are thicker (wider) such as the Crane/LMT SOPMOD? Would they rub on the side of the receiver? Would they even allow the stock to fully fold? Is there a way to limit the amount of hinge travel?

Thanks for any answers and my apologize if this has already been asked and I missed it.

Bob

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Law Tactical January 21, 2013 at 9:05 pm

We have several other photos of wider stocks including the LMT SOPMOD MWS on our website and Facebook page. Obviously we are not able to test every stock/rail combination, but even if you run a very wide stock and very wide rail/handguard to the point that it cannot 100% fold over, the user ajustable hinge tension would allow you to have the stock held in place even if not completely folded over.

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Kirk January 22, 2013 at 2:23 am

Maybe I missed it, how much does it cost? Where can I buy it?
Thanks….

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PS6 January 22, 2013 at 6:41 am

Here is the link to Law Tactical's web page.

http://www.lawtactical.com/product_p/2012201.htm

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Pete January 22, 2013 at 2:57 am

An ergonomics question. I have found that a PDW is most useful slung close to the body – it is available if it is … available! The stock here will be uncomfortable if carried under a jacket, or slung under the armpit, out of the way. Is it possible to have the butt outboard, along the ejection side of the weapon. We have learned it cannot usefully be fired folded, so it might as well be comfortable. Under armpit slinging is for vehicle carry, tank crews, heli crews etc.

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PS6 January 22, 2013 at 7:02 am

The Forward Assist and Brass Deflector are in the way.

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Law Tactical January 22, 2013 at 7:49 am

You nailed it, the Forward Assist is the reason we fold to the left. Additionally with the many variations of stocks, if it folded to the right then you would have the potential for the stock to press the mag release and drop the magazine.

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Pete Sheppard January 22, 2013 at 5:50 am

Since the rifle cannot be reliably fired with the stock folded, a fixed-length version just might be permitted in areas where regular 'folding' stocks are not permitted, similar to the 'non-C' SU16s. That could be a boon for AR shooters in those areas.

Thankfully I live in a (relatively) free state (Alabama), so this product has my interest when I'm able to get my own AR rifle(s).

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w johnson January 22, 2013 at 2:27 pm

Might be an option on a shotgun with something like a mesa tactical stock adapter

j.

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Tacticaltshirts.com January 23, 2013 at 5:43 am

I'm a moron. I ask stupid questions. It is not clear. I assume I know the answer, but I want it to be clear. Stock is in folded position, for whatever reason the weapon discharges, weapon is DRT, correct? At least until you get it back to the armory.

TTR

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Law Tactical January 23, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Correct. In testing .308 will deform the housing first shot every time. With 5.56 it will sometimes survive 1 shot without deforming but don't count on it. If you were to fire folded expect your rifle to be out of service until the adaptor is removed or replaced.

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Mikey January 23, 2013 at 8:27 am

Website clearly says for 5.56 and 308, but I sitll have to ask, will it work on 9mm AR? Mine is actually a 9mm upper on .223 lower with 9mm hammer, magwell and buffer.

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Law Tactical January 23, 2013 at 4:00 pm

The 9mm bcg has a weight plug installed in the rear hole of the bcg. The adaptor has a bolt carrier extension that installs into that same rear hole. So without removing that weight plug and installing the bc extension it will not work. Some customers have reported removing the plug and installed the adaptor but we have not done any testing on such a modification.

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Roy Tanimoto March 7, 2013 at 10:54 pm

will this adapter fit a Troy MCS frame?

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Hunter Young March 8, 2013 at 11:52 am

That’s ingenious and I have to get one.

It appears to be highly refined. When did you come up with the idea and how many months (or years) of work did it take to reach the point you’re at today? Best of luck.

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Uncommon Commoner March 14, 2013 at 11:45 am

Been wanting one of these for months, but they are still back ordered. Any good estimates as to true availability?

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Law Tactical March 29, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Roy,

Looking at the "TROY M14 MODULAR CHASSIS SYSTEM (MOD 1) INSTRUCTION MANUAL", I would say YES. Please feel free to contact us thru our website.

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vusstoppy October 27, 2013 at 10:29 pm

I have muti-caliber lower ace skeleton stock and a single shot 50 bmg upper 18″ barrel. I would like to shorten my rifle up with this adaptor but will it work with or without safe modifications and will the bolt fit through the adaptor? thanks for the info if possible.

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Spencer December 14, 2013 at 4:19 pm

Would a drop in CMMG .22LR Conversion BCG work with this and could it be fired while folded since the .22LR BCG does not slide into the buffer tube to cycle when fired.

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