New for Seabees, Engineers & Those Who Hate Filling Sandbags

Most smartassery aside, consider the implications of this in a deployed location, in MOOTW operations and anywhere there is a need to rapidly to establish some force protection measures (we hate that term, by the way). Certainly water won’t always be available (though it doesn’t have to be potable for these to work), but then presumably we won’t always be wearing PT belts and fighting battles in arid, landlocked countries. Structures and the reinforcement of sandbags are obvious, but what if something like Hescos were made out of this? Could we have a more easily transportable T Wall option using something like this? It’s the increased speed of putting infrastructure in place that seems most obvious to us – you air assault in, inflate one of these and in less than 24 hours some brigade commander’s flunky could be giving direction to a platoon in the field from a position of relative safety.

Would this technology make it faster to establish a COP, or help recover from a natural disaster? FEMA trailers are nice and never wasted, but might this be a more durable option in places suffering recurring damage from weather? Perhaps skeletonized canvas walls could be erected in anticipation of a flood, or in places where people insist it’s a fantastic idea to live in a bog below sea level.

This time all smartassery aside, any ideas?

 

We located a couple of places that seem to be carrying this stuff:

http://concretecanvas.co.uk/

http://concretecloth.milliken.com/Pages/home.aspx

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  • Pete Sheppard

    WAY cool! Sounds really good, so far. I look forward to hearing what it’s drawbacks are.

  • DGR

    Drawbacks, Its harder to destroy when you leave. Although that has been a problem with any fortification long before this. That and its still heavy as crap, so airlifting a lot of it out to a FOB is going to be a major undertaking. Its not bullet proof, its just a hard structure. Id like to see it tested, but im betting most small arm round would still penetrate.

    I say its pretty f’in awesome though, make it cheap enough and the rednecks out in my neck of the woods will have a field day! Heck, id even have a field day with this stuff if it was cheap enough! Can you say new deer camp!

    • Pete Sheppard

      It did a great job in the second video, holding the sandbags together, so *they* could provide protection longer. By itself, cured concrete cloth looks as if it it can provide splinter protection–no small benefit!

      • DGR

        But the sandbags stopped the bullet, not the concrete. Which was my point.

        • Pete Sheppard

          I got that. :-) I was pointing out that the (non-bulletproof) concrete cloth was providing support to the sandbag wall so it would remain effective longer.

  • Dan d’Errico

    British technology! Let’s get our men & women in uniform some of this protection.

  • Lance

    Like it. Makes a Seabee’s job so much easier.

  • Rob

    It’s a great product, I’ve had my grubby hands on it over here in the UK but it’s best applications are much more mundane. It’s not suitable for facing sandbag walls; yes the walls appear to hold up longer but after taking multiple rounds the sand can migrate south within the shell and you have no way of knowing how much ballistic protection remains. Yes a traditional sandbag wall will look worse after taking the same hits but it’s waaaay quicker to repair.

    It’s best uses are very straight forward; repairing cracked culvert pipes during installation, upgrading FOB drainage systems to make allow trapezoidal channels to be dug under wooden pallet walkways, capping Hesco baskets near HLS’s to reduce FOD, rapid and permanent dust supression for austere HLS etc…

    Great product with it’s uses only limited by the Sapper’s imagination!

  • Seabee_Vet

    Are you people THAT stupid?? Obviously, you have never been in COMBAT!!

    CONCRETE is one of the BEST materials available for SHRAPNEL. It splinters and spreads concrete chips everywhere. We lost 2 men in Vietnam who dove into a Concrete lined Bunker during a rocket attack on our base, they didn’t stand a chance and were shreaded.

    I told Gen. Westmoreland not to use concrete on PORTABLE BUNKERS he want to fly to the DMZ for combat troops. He DIDN’T have a clue.

  • Iknow

    This is great technology. It’s a move in the right direction of innovation. Of course the first example of it will not be perfect…but then again what is?

    For the gentleman who mentioned ballistic/shrapnel protection…this structure coupled with the strategic placement of a few Hescos would be pretty effective.

  • j

    agree with Iknow. folks should stop being cynical.

    presumably we won’t always be wearing PT belts and fighting battles in arid, landlocked countries.

    this bit is more blasphemous than this concrete cloth idea

  • Jerry

    I like it, I can see alot of uses in the civilian realm, if its not too pricey. Been planning on building an underground storm shelter. This could be a good start for building a storm shelter. Any one in the states familiar with where it is available and cost?

  • Zach

    To me it looks like this Concrete cloth is very useful as a portable building or for making a long lasting drainage ditch instantly as i see it there are many uses for this cloth i know it might not be bullet proof as other comments have pointed out but still it can provide extra armor or sacrificial armor to a bunker or the Wall of a FOB i see it being used more for constructing buildings in a hurry either way it has a wide range of uses i would just like to know how much it weights and how much it will cost for a role and when will it be available at my local hardware store?

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