Rolled SleeveNine out of ten Kit Up! readers agreed with Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos’ decision to allow Marines to again start rolling their sleeves when wearing desert camouflage utilities in non-combat areas.

More than two years ago, Amos ordered sleeves down when wearing the desert camouflage uniform in warm weather. Marines will still wear sleeves down in colder weather and wearing the woodland camouflage uniform. The change will take place on March 9 when Marines make the seasonal switch.

The results of this informal poll are not much of a surprise. Many Marines expressed their frustration when Amos made the initial decision for Marines to lower their sleeves.

Amos admitted on Facebook that he was asked repeatedly by Marines when they could roll their sleeves up again.

“I’ve thought a lot about this over the past 2.5 years; I realize that it’s important to you. Sleeves up clearly and visually sets us apart.”

 

{ 22 comments… read them below or add one }

majr0d March 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm

Is this damage control by the Commandant? 2.5 yrs has passed since he rolled sleeves down. Besides 2.5 yrs of questions his reputation has taken a beating most recently for suppressing (and denying he did it) Marine Corps Times for covering his role in persecuting the urination video Marines and shutting up whistle blowers…

Sleeves up is good news for Marines but is it that easy to distract them?

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Guest March 4, 2014 at 8:42 pm

Yes Major Rod, while the Marine Corps is having a serious tug of war about sleeves being rolled up:
In the mean time –

1 – China just said they would hike Military spending by 10.7%, while the US Government plans to CUT Military spending to *Pre WW II levels. (*The US Army trained with wooden rifles in the late 1930s)
2- North Korea is testing a new multiple Rocket Launcher that can range US & South Korean Military Bases, South of Seoul.
2- The Russians and the "new" Ukrainian Government are just one false move from a shooting war in the Crimea. While an impotent NATO / Western Europe looks on.

But hey, "Rome wasn't build in a day", right Major Rod? At least the sleeve problem fix is in sight!

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Juanito Grande March 5, 2014 at 8:52 am

Rome wasn't built in a day — how long did it take to burn as Nero fiddled? Hopefully, terrorists, Iranians, Russians, etc., will be impressed with the U.S.M.C. sleeve rolling decision.

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Guest March 5, 2014 at 11:35 am

The great Fire that burned ROME started on July 18, 64AD and lasted 5 days.
Nero blamed the Christians and had many put to death in the aftermath.

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Anthony March 5, 2014 at 11:42 am

Btw Nero was not in Rome when the fire started and the fiddle was not invented for a couple hundred years after the event.

Moondawg March 4, 2014 at 9:53 pm

A slow news day at kit up, when the most exciting thing they can find to write about it that the Marines can once again roll their sleeves up in hot weather.

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Easy March 5, 2014 at 11:17 pm

It is all rules and regulations. If a war is coming Marines need to know what is proper dress for battle. We don't run around with our hands in our pocket playing pocket pool. We roll up (Now) our sleeves and lock and load.

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buck March 4, 2014 at 10:10 pm

I was a recruiter and know the simple minds that exist in the Corps. The dumbest stuff gets the most attention while the serious issues are dismissed.

Semper Go TEAM !

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mrlee March 5, 2014 at 6:28 am

In my 4 years, I ALWAYS got the best results by staying outside the box, and never staying inside. And then they would come up to me and pat me on the back.

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Herbert Levinson March 5, 2014 at 8:52 am

I can see why rolled up sleeves would relieve some body heat and provide troops with greater comfort during desert warfare. Why not camaflage the skin, sand color with food dye to disguise the hard contrast lines from enemy eyes. If that's that's the roll up problem. Rather than have grunts suffer from body over heating?

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Pete Sheppard March 5, 2014 at 9:02 am

'Sleeves up' is for admin/garrison. In the field, sleeves go down for protection and camo. Presumably, the 'field cuff' where sleeves are taken up a roll or two between wrist and elbow for ventilation is permitted.

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Robert Everhart March 5, 2014 at 9:18 am

The general has way to much time on his hands.

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Lee March 5, 2014 at 10:44 am

Wow it’s it not enough that these soldiers are fighting for us????? I understand to serve and protect, especially protect them but really from what a sunburn… at least let these men and woman be comfortable while not in combat!!!!

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wtpworrier March 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm

It's a policy change, either you do it, or you don't. You don't need a committee to make that change.

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M Ray March 5, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Who cares, more important issues to work than sleeves!

V/R,
1LT

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Virgil Hilts March 5, 2014 at 5:57 pm

This is important, too. Perilous times folks. ""The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men."

-Samuel Adams
BTW…Glad Marines get to roll their sleeves again. Marine 'culture'! OOHRAH

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Tanker March 5, 2014 at 7:10 pm

In WWII it took us 3 1/2 years to defeat the Axis Powers, which included retaking Europe and parts of Africa, and controlling 1/3 of the Earth's surface in the Pacific. Now it takes us 2 1/2 years to decide to roll our sleeves up. I think we need to put together a study group to find out why it takes so long to make decisions. I think a few hundred analysts and a couple hundred million dollars should have us an answer in two or three years.

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Doubtom March 5, 2014 at 9:43 pm

Wow! The world is going to hell in a handbasket and the Marines are yakking about rolled up sleeves. Just leave the damn sleeves off the shirt in the first place, that would make them cheaper to produce. It's a win win !

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waterman March 5, 2014 at 9:50 pm

I'll try this again with more PC – sorry.
In RVN '67 and non-op (rear) I just made short sleeves on the jungle jacket with my KBar. Never got called on it. (Damaging gov't property?)
Yes, there are more important things.
Bring back the summer trops w/p-cutter. The blue trou looks sissy to me.

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don March 12, 2014 at 10:33 pm

Sleeves up or down. I never cared

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Warren42 March 16, 2014 at 12:47 pm

Laughing here, with all the stench going around DC, it's a wonder he ordered the sleeves down!! All ones has to do is watch CSpan on congress, I'm sure they all smell like "goats" getting out of there. I still say, you didn't need a committee to decide this issue, just ask the PFC what he thought about it, you would get a true answer. It was a stupid issue in the first place!

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Guest March 5, 2014 at 2:06 pm

True, the "fiddle" wasn't around in 64AD but Emperor Nero played a "Lyre", a stringed instrument,
in those days. Emperor Nero had most of his naysayers feed to the Lions, so it's hard to Judge His guilt or innocence, on the great Fire.

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