Okay, I’ve got a sense of humor, but maybe this is a little bit too much…

Kit Up! contributor Jack Murphy is a former Ranger, Special Forces Soldier and is the author of the military thriller Reflexive Fire.

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SF Rick September 5, 2011 at 7:40 am

Slap on some swastika and maybe a picture of Glenn Beck and you're set, way to go COIN and FID.

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juan September 5, 2011 at 8:30 am

Ah, yes, cause Beck is such a famous Nazi sympathizer with all his … speeches about protecting Israel.
Way to be a left-wing idiot.

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DogtownD September 5, 2011 at 4:11 pm

I think his point is a completely valid one. The crusader crosses are just the kind of touch that shows whoever painted this bike doesn't understand the basics of COIN and FID.

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mang September 5, 2011 at 4:25 pm

If any msm outlet picks up on this it's going to be an embarrassment. I mean, the paint job IS an embarrassment, considering ST6 are such utter pro's.

PS Glenn Beck is basically a cartoon character. If you're a fan of his, I feel bad for you son!

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Hammer September 5, 2011 at 1:38 pm

The Stars and Bars are not equivalent to a swastika. Its about heritage, not hatred. And no, I'm not from the South.

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Hammer September 5, 2011 at 11:57 am

A) I don't expect his is being used for a lot of COIN/FID. When you're doing DA operations the enemy is rarely going to be more offended by your paint job than the rounds you put into them.
B ) In a country where Bibles are illegal, I doubt many of their illiterate population even knows what a cross symbolizes or can read "Infidel Racing"
C) I'm willing to bet the triple play of Infidel, cross, and alcohol is meant to be a joke.
Either way, this isn't the end of the world for our operations in Afganistan, lets care more about dropping bombs on the wrong house and getting good teachers in all the schools we've built.

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Res September 5, 2011 at 5:34 pm

Excellent comment Sir. One single JDAM dropping on the wrong house does more bad to the COIN mission than any crusader patch.

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E-4 USMC MarSoc September 5, 2011 at 12:18 pm

IF OUR TROOPS (ESPECIALLY OUR "BEST AND BRIGHTEST") ARE DOING THIS TO THEIR TAXPAYER PAID GEAR, AND THE POINT IS TO "PROTECT US FROM THEM", THEN IT'S PROBABLY HIGH TIME TO COME HOME. PACK AND RETURN HOME, MISSION UNACCOMPLISHED.

ALL WE'RE DOING NOW IS PISSING MORE PEOPLE OFF, TIME TO COME HOME. WE'RE NOT SPENDING TRILLIONS FOR A CRUSADE SLASH RACE WAR. WE WERE SUPPOSE TO BE MANAGING THE THREAT, NOT MULTIPLYING IT.

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Pvt. Johanes September 5, 2011 at 12:23 pm

r we gonna paint the nazi swastika too? this is just plain stupid and i'm just a buck private and i understand we're suppose to be doing counter-insurgency with indigenous troops.

why do i get it, but our jsoc and socom people don't? could it be because there are more southern whites in these units than others?

i would never feel comfortable flying the stars and bars because my platoon is composed of blacks, hispanics, asians and yes, even arabs and muslims. i have too much respect for my fellow soldiers to do this.

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Maj. K(USA ret.) September 5, 2011 at 12:27 pm

I hope I had more Pvt.s like you down range. Thank you for your service.

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SKS 2 September 5, 2011 at 12:29 pm

This isn't cool, no matter how you cut it. It's not cool. And as a Ranger, SF and OGA veteran of these wars, I hope there'll be some disciplinary actions taken.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Ummm, who cares…Its cool and all you cry baby liberals need to get out of the US Military and become librarians or coffee house employees….I really don't give a F@# if this offended you or the Taliban and Insurgents that we are killing and who want all Americans dead and to destroy our way of life!! We have no place for you our military, please leave after your enlistment is up. Good Riddance to you and your brain washed liberal American hating beliefs.
PS. I HOPE YOU ARE OFFENDED!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA !! NO LIBERALS IN THE US MILITARY, You shouldn't have joined for the GI bill, you should have joined to serve America!!!

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Morgan September 5, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Your problem is you think only red blooded Southerners, or Republicans, or Fox viewers are allowed to serve and respect the freedoms of America. You're so busy admiring your self righteous confederate flag hat pin in the mirror, you didn't notice the other people doing everything they can to protect our liberties. You don't notice the Hispanics, the Asian Americans, the Muslims, the Democrats, the Green Card holders and anyone else who volunteered for military duty. My girlfriend is a third generation Japanese-Hispanic (if you can believe that). Her great grandfather, grandfather, father and mother and a host of relatives all served in various branches and did tours to Vietnam, Korea and Iraq during Desert Storm. They did all this, at great sacrifice. Who are you to discredit that service because of their choice to vote for Obama and be rightly offended by that stupid bike decal.

Conservatives are also so busy rooting out honest, hard working, gay soldiers from the branches that they're ignoring the rampant hatred that swirls around inside the army bases across America. You've got no respect for your fellow soldier and you should get squared away. Thanks for completely reinforcing the negative perception the world has of Americans.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:11 pm

I'm from Philadelphia, I would have been a Union Soldier..

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Bill September 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm

Better not cheat on your girlfriend, she'll cut your d!(k off with a katana.

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Joseph Shahd September 5, 2011 at 12:56 pm

I'm taking a seminar class w/ Gen. Stan McChrystal. Great guy, I'm going to forward this to him and I hope he'll call some people he knows to get the asswipe who painted all his on an American military motorcycle and get him sent back for kitchen duty for the rest of his enlistment.

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 1:05 pm

yet another soldier who doesn't get our mission abroad.

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Stefan S. September 5, 2011 at 1:10 pm

Who cares about pissing them off? We have been fighting them since the 7th century. America since John Adams was president. Stop treating the muzzies like they are your next door neighbor. Forgot the two gaping holes in lower Manhattan? Jackass.

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Stefan S. September 5, 2011 at 1:11 pm

Maybe you'll write your congressman and bitch about Obama f'in up the military too!

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Blue Line September 5, 2011 at 1:13 pm

I love it if our local Police had swastikas and southern flags on them. Professionalism at its BEST.

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 1:19 pm

and the slavery/racist southern flags? you think it's prudent to have crosses in Muslim countries? are we in a crusade? nope, we're engaged in a hearts and minds campaign.

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Wombat September 5, 2011 at 1:21 pm

If this is a U.S. Army bike, I am terribly offended by the Confederate flag. The war is over, you lost, get on with your life.

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ODA564 September 5, 2011 at 9:31 am

Wombat, I'm offended that the presence of a Confederate battleflag (technically an Army of Tennessee battleflag since it is rectangular unlike a square ANV battleflag) offends you. .

I had ancestors that fought on both sides – from Georgia, Tennessee, Maine and Minnesota – the veterans of that war recognized that brave Americans fought gallantly and died bloodily under both flags. The US government returned the captured Confederate flags to the Southern states.

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CAG September 5, 2011 at 1:55 pm

I believe this is a Navy SEAL bike. If I'm not mistaking there is a "Trident" emblem on the front fender. It looks to me like a SEALs bike, all hype and glam.

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Res September 5, 2011 at 2:51 pm

STMFVI… SEAL Team Mother Fucking Six

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CAG > SEAL Team 6 September 5, 2011 at 3:18 pm

Wow, I didn't even notice the STMFVI, great eye.

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 1:23 pm

Thank you, sir.

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Send these photos to your local Fed representatives, copy furnished to White House, DoD and DoJ.

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Joseph S. September 5, 2011 at 1:27 pm

How so? He's pretty much left the Bush doctrine and GWOT untouched. There's been more DA under Obama than Bush. No Obama is doing pretty well as commander in chief. But this stunt with Southern flags and crosses and "Infidels" is just plain stupid. I can assure you Gen. Stan McChrystal will agree with me.

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carbine September 5, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Whatever you boys gotta' do to burn off stress. Stay safe, keep up the good work see you soon.

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 1:47 pm

how many tanks, amphibs, humvees have the southern flags? if you're working by, through, with indigenous population why would you have a christian cross, adding to the crusade motif UBL and AlQaeda is promoting? wouldn't it be helping them and not us?

most importantly if i was working with local population, and took the care not to insinuate racism/crusade, etc. if other units drove by sporting these racist symbols, i shouldn't have to be put in a position where i have to explain that they are direct action guys so they can be as racist as they wanna be.

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Mr. Culper Sr. September 5, 2011 at 2:00 pm

The man who rides this bike is actually a black SEAL Team Six member from Athens Georgia, who's a new convert to Islam, so upon hearing this, his teammates pulled a prank on him. This was just a prank.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:08 pm

Call the Congressman, Call NPR, Call Code Pink, Call the NY Times, Get the SEALs arrested and thrown in the Brig!!! I'm offended!! BOOO FREAKIN' HOOO!!! Really?
Too Bad we can't use the liberals, and Islamic sympathizers for live fire practice..Islam is the religion of Peace???…tell that to the 3000+ that were killed on 9/11, and the 5000+ US Troops that have been killed in the past 10 years of war…

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Yeah, Censoring the freedom of speech, due to the fact that it hurt Morgans feelings…

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Morgan September 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm

Thing is Panzerhund, you're even disrespectful to fellow Marines. You criticize everyone that's not a combat MOS and you go on about how much you have done more than anyone else. Isn't that why you call Marine band members pogues?

That's not very christian of you, is it? Just go back to your farm.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 6:53 pm

Ummm, yeah…..Why else would have I joined the Marines? Who joins the Marines to be a admin guy or some other BS job? You're pretty good with a google search….Again, I'm from Philadelphia PA…so I don't have a farm to go home to…So you hate farmers and Christians too? WOW…More American hating from you Morgan, you should just join the Taliban…You really do hate America don't you. I'm glad that I don't have to serve with you in a unit….I'm sure you'd be wanting to kill all the people who come from the south, live on farms, are Christian and are in Combat MOS too???

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 2:15 pm

somebody didn't read the counter-insurgency manual. we're suppose to be using the same play book. shame on you!

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Pvt. J September 5, 2011 at 2:16 pm

whatever, i've probably done more deployments than you as a pvt.

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Maj. K September 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

If we just responded by covert action (DIA/CIA), direct action (SOCOM/JSOC) and diplomatic (DoS, DoJ, Treasury, USAID, Voice of America) means, that 5,000 plus US troops would've been under 500, or less. We F'ed up, period.

UBL would love for you to think this is another crusade, you're only helping Al-Qaeda by being this ignorant. Only the best and brightest should've been sent to deal with this war, people who studied the ME, speak Arabic, have bachelor's degrees and experience abroad. Sending our most ignorants only misrepresents us.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

Sure you have….You're a regular John Rambo with a degree from Berkeley in Hating America and being a left wing communist PU$$Y….

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm

And I don't care what the rest of the world thinks about Americans..Sorry you made the wrong choice about joining the military….or even if you are really even in? Hope that you get out soon, so the GI bill pays for your college…You're better off a student then you are a soldier.

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WISH I HAD THAT BIKE September 5, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Love this fucking bike !!!! And god bless the warriors that ride it into battle. Thank you for the vengeance you've sought for 343 New York City firefighters…. Fuck the bleeding heart liberals….They need to lighten up…
NEVER FORGET…….NEVER FORGIVE!!!!!

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:34 pm

This is why you retired a Major….Glad to see you are no longer a leader of men.

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700 ClubFan September 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

I thought Jesus Christ said to forgive.

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Gentle Giant September 5, 2011 at 2:39 pm

The BEST comment of this post.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Again, I'm glad that you are no longer leading men…Major, the rank that makes you or breaks you.

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Morgan September 5, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Of course you are. You thrived under poor leaders no doubt.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 3:25 pm

Oh, you again….Sorry Mogan…I didn't mean to offend you…Hope you don't loose any sleep tonight over this Dirt Bike issue and how I could care less about you or your liberal ideals…Good work with the Google search, I'll be looking forward to seeing you on YouTube or Flickr and what ever else..I'll be sure to tell all my former NCOs and Officers that they did a terrible job leading me over the years. I'm sure you and your American hating college professors would have done better. I would bid you a farewell and offer you a thought in my prayers, but I forgot you hate my Christian God, my Patriotism, and my American way of life. Thank you for hating me and others like me. Its what keeps me warm at night. Semper Fi, God Bless and may the Lord forgive you for your sick mind. See you at the coffee house reading poems and talking crap on American Farmers, Christians, Military Members and other true Americans.

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Battalion Commander September 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Very cool bike…………………maybe Taledaga Nights 2?

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Warrior Saint September 5, 2011 at 4:10 pm

Mr. Murphy, are you saying then that the SEAL who painted this dirt bike is actually a cosmopolitan type of guy who reads Arabic and was educated in a respected college? And not just from some hicksville town?

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Mike September 5, 2011 at 4:11 pm

Get some…

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Maj. K September 5, 2011 at 4:18 pm

Most Delta operators come from the SF, Air Force Special OPs and even some Marines. Most are very cultured and have interfaced with a variety of people and languages. Most SEALs are DA types, they don't give a F about culture, they just destroy, they don't go incognito mix in with the locals as well as the Delta and Activity types, so their learning curve when it comes to understanding the enemy and the nuanced COIN type war is somewhat very low, they are more CT than anything.

That's why I'm concerned why they are getting more promotions (O-6 and above) compared to SF and Delta types who have a deeper understanding of foreign small wars.

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mang September 5, 2011 at 4:20 pm

LOL?

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Maj. K September 5, 2011 at 4:24 pm

For anyone who knows the Middlebury Language program, you know SEALs and SF and others go here to perfect their language. You can usually tell who the SEALs are and who the others are, because SEALs go there to lay as many of the co-eds as they can, as part of their initiation rites. They are sent there on taxpayers' dime and all they do is chase co-eds. More serious and seasoned soldiers and other gov't agency types mix in with the population and study their language, it's pretty difficult for you to spot them on campus. But SEALs however, practically wear SEAL shirts and go around advertising their parent organization.

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DIY September 5, 2011 at 4:26 pm

google "crusader cross". and see.

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Res September 5, 2011 at 4:50 pm

One of the Gold Squadron assaulters killed in August, was a black guy. Elitism is not racism.

Is a Direct Action unit… COIN? they don't partner with Afghan forces, they are isolated and deploy for raids, if they want to put bad-ass mottos on their stuff, they're free to do it.

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Takasugi September 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm

We don't respect nor care to understand you nose pickin' idiots.

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Latifa Jones September 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm

@ Khan,

On behalf of ALL Americans, I'd like to apologize for what we've done in your country.

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On Point September 5, 2011 at 5:05 pm

I love this answer. To the point.

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Sedona Rocks September 5, 2011 at 5:06 pm

I hope they track your IP address and find you, you sick duck.

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Dr. No September 5, 2011 at 5:07 pm

Exactly. Where's the professionalism.

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XYZ September 5, 2011 at 5:07 pm

BS! What a story!

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Khan September 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Thank you. This means a lot for me.

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Res September 5, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Yeah, because within small units nobody will ever knew if the guy you are working and living 24/7 is racist or not, specially while displaying banners. And by the way, thousands of US soldiers and Marines use logos, patches and t-shirts with the "Infidel", what about "Pork eating crusader" and Templar crosses? Asshole…

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Alfonso Keens September 5, 2011 at 5:24 pm

Glenn Beck is a joke.

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MIIS Co-Ed 2007 September 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm

I can attest to this as I fell in love with not one but two US Navy SEALs, who were later deployed and on their facebook profiles posted half-naked photos of them dancing with Russian, E. European and British models in the UAE.

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SFC RFC September 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm

Yup, these guys are more of a college frat on steroids than a professional military outfit.

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Gene September 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm

You sure do talk a lot for a PVT.

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Res September 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm

No dude, some guys are in hearts and minds, others bombs, others launch missiles, others search for bombs, others jump from helicopters and storm houses with armed guys inside. Thousands of soldiers have crosses and templar tattoos, and there is a million "Infidel" caps, patches and t-shirts in any PX out there.

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Morgan September 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Well, Kit Up's efforts to cut out the racist diatribe on the site may have been undone by this post.

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reflexivefire September 5, 2011 at 6:11 pm

Sorry. Unintended consequence.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Clearly PVT J, Maria Hernadez, Miyagi and Joseph Shahd are not in the military, you are all frauds, stop spreading your Anti- American liberal agenda!! You and your cronies that have affected Kitup.com!!
Come on….who calls themselves a "Buck Private"??

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Guy September 5, 2011 at 6:06 pm

Jeez people got thin skin. It's just a joke, nothing wrong with showing the stars and bars along with all that other stuff, the Afghans won't get it but who cares. BTW no one deserves to lose their job over something like this so stop suggesting that, the guys could be from the South and want to show off so let em.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Send Maria Hernadez back across the border!

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A lot wiser than you September 5, 2011 at 6:19 pm

The Confederate Flag should be offensive to most Americans and is most definitely offensive to most African-Americans. It has no place anywhere in the service, prank or otherwise. This particular prank was likely very painful for the recipient. Whoever was responsible likely didn't mean it as a devastating attack on the recipient – an indication of dangerous insensitivity and stupidity. This is definitely NOT someone who should be in a war zone.

The Christian iconography most likely offends the host country's locals and *should* be offensive to all Americans as separating the church and state was once one of the American Peoples' most cherished values. That so many fail to understand this is disheartening. The arrogance and hate that often accompanies this failure to understand is shocking and ugly – as evidenced here in this thread.

Ten years in and the entire clusterfuck is still flawless Christian American good guys vs. demonic Muslim Arab evil guys to so many sub-100s. Any American serviceman carrying a weapon in theater accompanied by this attitude is essentially playing the same role as his sworn enemy the jihadist.

Our bigots and their jihadist assholes deserve each other. In fact, they cannot exist without each other. How would this douche "panzer" compensate for his cocktail-frank of a penis in the absence of a hot war? Would that there was a way we could isolate the idiot Jihadists and the idiot "9/11 avengers" on our side from their more sane colleagues and drop them on another planet to terrorize each other while the rest of us get on with our lives…

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mang September 5, 2011 at 6:52 pm

BIGGEST… MANMADE… WATERFALLS?

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Tier 4 Operator September 5, 2011 at 6:58 pm

The Delta guys will tell you how professional the SEAL Team Six guys are……….or not.

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Morgan September 5, 2011 at 7:05 pm

The whole family will…

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Mr. Shakeem September 5, 2011 at 7:08 pm

I've already forwarded this photo to my congressman and senators. Expecting an explanation from them shortly.

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Tangonine September 5, 2011 at 7:23 pm

Welcome to the easily offended group from Kit Up! FAIL

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Tangonine September 5, 2011 at 7:28 pm

2 crosses and a rebel flag are all it takes to get the hippies worked up. Not sure where the idiot with the Glenn Beck reference was spawned from, but he illustrative of all that commie hate… it's a MOTORCYCLE, get over it.

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Tangonine September 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm

SF Rick,

It's a bike, dude. Be ***t hurt a little less.

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reflexivefire September 5, 2011 at 7:37 pm

I didn't expect such a response to this picture. I'm saddened to see how quickly it devolved into accusations of racism, Nazi comparisons, outlandish side bar conversations, Glenn Beck references and a plethora of other nonsense that has little if anything to do with the picture in question.

As seen in the comment I posted with the picture, I think it does go a little far and does cross a line, becoming unprofessional in the process. That said, and think some people should try the decaf. I doubt that the person who spray painted this dirt bike came the same conclusions, or had the same word view, that many of the posters here assume that he did.

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Panzerhund0311 September 5, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Oh, sorry…..The SEALs and the rest of the Military need to be more "professional" when killing the enemy and can NOT play any jokes by have fun, laugh or be human in the mean time….that's not professional enough…Also, God forbid we offend anyone in the process of being humans. You can contact the admin and censor what you what, delete, or what ever you want to do. Go ahead a disregard the 1st Amendment due to the posts are hurtful to others and its Kitups right to do so. Sorry you were saddened by what you have read and it became off topic…if that's the case, then just post things about cammo, flashlights, weapons, etc, that way no one will post anything that will sadden or be hurtful.

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reflexivefire September 5, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Uh, what?

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ddouboleu September 5, 2011 at 7:39 pm

What does the STMFVI stand for?

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??? September 5, 2011 at 7:46 pm

Someone said it stands for (S)EAL (T)eam (M)other (F)ucking Six (VI).

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reflexivefire September 5, 2011 at 8:17 pm

There is a lot of room in between the two extremes Warrior Saint. Probably he simply externalized his sense of humor in a way that would have been best kept to himself.

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WJS September 5, 2011 at 8:24 pm

Wy are they "CRUSADER" crosses and not just crosses?

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Khan September 5, 2011 at 8:36 pm

Why don't all you Americans go home. WTF did you come to Afghanistan for in the first place? Who can rightly answer this question? The dirt bike only shows your lack of respect and understanding. You can't even agree amongst yourselves and even go back to your old civil war issues. Build a bridge and get over it.

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Khan September 5, 2011 at 11:19 pm

You see what I mean. You do not understand. We are not all Al'Qaeda or terrorists. We are family men, business men, normal people, educated people. But you brush us all with the same brush. Your utterance shows ignorance and a lack of understanding. With your attitude who can blame so many millions for hating you.

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Khan September 5, 2011 at 11:21 pm

I rest my case. You are ignorant and presumptuous. We will see who the idiot is in the long run.

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mang September 5, 2011 at 11:25 pm

Also, straight up, there are no more black people in san francisco. They got gentrified out. Nobody can afford to live there but yuppies. You fail as a bigot.

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Frank Marks September 6, 2011 at 2:08 am

That thing is bad ass!!! whats the bet that the guy who did this calls himself skull rider or something equally idiotic.

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mike da silva September 6, 2011 at 2:18 am

INCREDULOUS. you guys just turned a silly painted motor cycle into a race / KKK/ neo nazi/ anti american thing. this from the nation that holds itself in such high moral esteem. dudes, its just a bike that some guys were obviously goofing around with. why turn it into a huge political affair? geesh! it looks dilly and was most likely just dudes havin fun. the moral compasses were going wild there. i am south african and not even we get so bent of shape over such a trivial speck of a post.

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Morgan September 6, 2011 at 5:01 am

Mike. How do people feel when white south africans wave the old flag? I'm sure they don't just laugh it off. Times change, and with it flags. In reference to the old confederate flage, we should respect the flag flying over our heads now, not the one a losing side rallied under to protect priveleged rights for only a few and slavery. I think you can agree with that, right?

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Husbandinafghanistan September 6, 2011 at 3:58 am

Although I am just looking at this and laughing at how stupid people are, I can't help but comment.
What the hell is the matter with you idiots?
You people need to be more supportive of our troops and the job they do to keep your ass comfortable at home.
How dare you suggest that they aren't doing their jobs because of a painted bike (that is awesome by the way)!!! SHAME ON YOU All. It really does show just how narrow minded people really are.

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Nvrstukxj September 6, 2011 at 4:03 am

Don't apologize for me, azzhat……besides, isn't that Nobama's job?

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RacistScums September 6, 2011 at 4:28 am

Can't believe the amount of redneck confederate dicks. Just so you know, there were muslims, jewish, blacks, and asians who are serving in the military.

This is why the country is divided,

Because of idiots like you people.

What ever happened to "win the hearts and minds of the people"?

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Morgan September 6, 2011 at 5:03 am

I think General Petreaus was the last practitioner of hearts and minds. Oh well.

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Mike18B September 6, 2011 at 5:00 am

Luckily, youre just a private and will not be in a postions to explain anything. Privates shut their mouths and listen.

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Mike18B September 6, 2011 at 5:16 am

For Christ's (or Budda, Alla or whomever's) sake, its a bike. It doenst have a body dragging behind it, they arent running the roads screaming for slavery. Its a damn bike. This country has turned into a bunch of sensitive crybabies that tattle-tale over everything.
"Im gonna call my Congressman, Mayor or Governor". These are the same people that threaten to sue because their neighbors grass clippings landed on their driveway. Pull up your skirts and get over it. Its a Effin bike. There are plenty of more pressing issues to get worked out about.

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ZWP September 6, 2011 at 5:19 am

i love how butthurt people get over a confederate flag. and last time I checked, those "hicks" shed the same blood in the same mud as everybody else.

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Real American Men September 6, 2011 at 5:39 am

Pussy

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oletennessean September 6, 2011 at 5:50 am

bad ass bike, for those of you who dont like it dont look at it. why the **** are you apologizing for what we do in their country when it was them who started the fight?

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0311 USMC September 6, 2011 at 6:24 am

I tend to keep that kind of humor amongst my fellow Marines. It just doesn't work in the civilian world. The humor in the military stems from spending long hours in terrible conditions with a diverse group of guys. You can't explain it to those who haven't been there. I'm certain it sounds trite, just reading that line over, but it still rings true.

Out of context (ie: posted here or told to those outside your unit) it can seem incredibly offensive. When you have a tight-knit group of individuals your personal sense of indignation goes right out the window. You've got Marines from all different backgrounds, religions, races, and lifestyles coming together to poke fun at one another and themselves. There is a level of comfort with these guys you just can't get elsewhere. The joking isn't vindictive, it doesn't stem from privately held beliefs, it is only there to evoke a reaction from the guy next to you.

For example: If one of you (or even a Marine from another platoon.) walked up to me and started going on about the things you did to my (*Insert significant other here:) last night, you'd have a knee in your groin before you finished speaking. If one of my fireteam members said the same thing I'd fire back about the previous evening with (Insert significant OTHERS here:) or any number of similarly offensive come-backs. It's a brotherhood. You are easing the tension of whatever you are currently doing. It simply isn't offensive amongst brothers, there just aren't the same kind of barriers.

Race, religion, and politics become a lot less offensive when you have to sleep next to three other guys that decided MRE Buffalo Chicken was a solid dinner choice.

* [No pun intended...]

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Res September 6, 2011 at 6:35 am

Well said.

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Dauntless September 6, 2011 at 6:54 am

It's the historical battle flag of our ancestors. Plenty of people wear Union Jacks and display the cross of St. Andrew and multiple other flags – get over it.

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Mike18 September 6, 2011 at 8:54 am

The tea Party uses the Dont Tread on Me Flag…should I be offended by that? Come on, stop complaining.

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HalP September 6, 2011 at 6:59 am

I see where you're coming from, but the flag is not inherently disrespectful. It's a historical battle flag of a then-sovereign nation.

Just prior they flew the Stars & Stripes and unless I'm mistaken the offical flag of the KKK was Old Glory. So it's not the flag, it's your actions you need to worry about.

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dauntless September 6, 2011 at 7:05 am

I guess you weren't raised down here . . .

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Paralus September 6, 2011 at 7:07 am

So, you'd like advocate killing American citizens 'Too Bad we can't use the liberals' because they have differing political views than yours? Hooray for liberty.

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Paralus September 6, 2011 at 7:10 am

"B ) In a country where Bibles are illegal, I doubt many of their illiterate population even knows what a cross symbolizes or can read "Infidel Racing"

One doesn't need to be literate to understand symbols. Many folks can't speak Arabic, but they understand a Crescent moon and star.

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adil September 6, 2011 at 7:40 am

Its the religion bro its the people who hijacked it just like the yonkers who hijacked christianity. The meek shall inherit remember. Jesus and his lesson are common to both of us. Said yonkers aught to remember that and not invole the name of the lord in vain!

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adil September 6, 2011 at 7:43 am

apologies for the typo i meant that its NOT the religion but the people who hijacked it. There are people who take religion as a convenience and believe what the want to and leave out what they dont want or dont understand or chose NOT to understand. These are true infidels i.e. those without respect to the true meaning of Judaism,Christianity or Islam

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0311 USMC September 6, 2011 at 7:57 am

One-liners are as well, apparently.

It's not an excuse, it's merely an explanation. We don't carry on like that in public, because it's not intended for the public. It would reflect poorly on the Marine Corps.

I'm not making an excuse for the bike. It was a bad call, a worse one to put a picture out where others could find it. The real error was letting it slip outside his unit, which was the intended target. If it brightens their day even in the smallest of ways, more power to them. So long as it remains an "inside joke." Both literally and figuratively.

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dockem September 6, 2011 at 8:16 am

Friggin outstands, camo the helmet

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0311 USMC September 6, 2011 at 8:39 am

You are getting irate rather quickly, it seems.

I will quote what I wrote and let you sift through it to find "Jack Murphy" within.

"I'm not making an excuse for the bike. It was a bad call, a worse one to put a picture out where others could find it. The real error was letting it slip outside his unit, which was the intended target…"

A basic reading of the article above would indicate that Mr. Murphy is not the owner of the photo, nor the paint job on the bike. "he" is in reference to the unnamed serviceman who let it slip out.

Not certain where the Abu Ghraib comment came from. The cases are not similar at all. One deals with human rights, the other with humor among servicemen. I can see no apparent human rights violations in the above photo.

This conversation is finished for me. Have a great afternoon.

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0311 USMC September 6, 2011 at 8:42 am

Quite true. It is government property, and those markings don't belong. Probably the strongest case of the lot. (The remarks were sincere, it is difficult to get inflection across in writing.)

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 8:57 am

Didn't Ken Watanabe come from a country where soldiers desecrated American servicemen by castrating corpses and stuffing genitals in their mouths? …or perhaps pretty much every major action of the Japanese Empire in WWII?

How quickly we forget these things. Hmm…

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 9:03 am

Be careful you don't trip over the Gen.'s name you keep dropping…

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 9:11 am

Does your butt hurt a little bit less?

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Mike18 September 6, 2011 at 9:41 am

Please, oh please let us know as soon as Obama or your congressman write you back. We are all on the edge of oour seat to hear what they will say about some spraypaint.
Cry-baby. Your father is ashamed of you.

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 9:14 am

@ Khan,

On behalf of ALL Americans, I'd like to apologize for Latifa Jones.

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Sev September 6, 2011 at 11:11 am

On behalf of all Americans, you're welcome for having us save your sorry asses from the Taliban and giving you some chance at living a decent life. But hey, I guess you prefer getting shot in the head and having your women raped by savage zealots under the peaceful banner of Islam

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 11:47 am

Much agreed

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reflexivefire September 6, 2011 at 9:39 am

Sorry, no. This photo has been on the internet for a while. It's just getting more exposure now because Kit Up! gets a lot of traffic.

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Mike18 September 6, 2011 at 9:44 am

Jesus. I think humanity is going to be in danger is you have any children or spread your pathetic gene pool any further.
Your super high-speed cousin is just fine.

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Marcus September 6, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Get a freakin life people! If it breaks up the down time and someone laughed at it so be it….AS for it being paid for by the tax payers? Kiss it good byeeeeeeeeeee beeeeeeeeeeotchs cause that bike will never make it back in country!

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Marcus September 6, 2011 at 2:33 pm

STMFVI? Seal Team Mutha Fu*kin Six

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Guy September 6, 2011 at 2:57 pm

Man the Political correctness police are here in full force, just let the troops have their fun, if something offends you you then don't read, view or listen to it. Heaven forbid the troops have some fun during bad times to help them cope with the situation. Besides, most afghans cannot read and most likely don't understand any of these symbols nor care about them, their gonna be angry no matter what you do anyway because that's just been their mindset for a while ever since the Soviets invaded them. Furthermore unless the troops superiors tell them otherwise about doing these kind of things, just let them be. Besides no one likes someone who rats another out over trivial garbage that you would normally hear on college campus's by people are trying to seem PC.

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crackedlenses September 6, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Uh, there was a time early in our history when Congress printed its own Bibles; the whole "separation" thing is a recent development….

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 6:20 pm

I'm not aware of mass internment camps currently in America. I don't think I forgot anything.

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Morgan September 6, 2011 at 6:35 pm

Try reading then. It will help.

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Interesting September 6, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Oh, really? Because every Muslim in the United States are rounded up into internment camps. If you're referring to the facilities in Poland or Gitmo or anywhere else in the world, You have no idea of the bearing in which you're referring to in addition to belittling what the Japanese-Americans went through in WWII.

I'm growing woefully tired of elitist morons who are constantly so quick to attempt to draw connections to present events with those in the past, while having little to no regard for the weight of their ignorance. Then, they attempt to belittle their opponents (yes, I'd say I'm your opponent) by belittling them with assumptions that others are not nearly as "informed" as they are.

Yes, I am highly aware of the actions taken on Japanese-Americans in WWII. Yes, I would say I'm more aware of the detention facilities recently throughout the world than the average person (hey, thanks reading skills!). Are they mindlessly rounding up Muslims and throwing them in the camps without any real reason? Save for the occasional mistake, no.

Your smug ignorance is not only insulting to the Japanese-Americans, but to our Military as well.

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Logic September 6, 2011 at 8:31 pm

They are. Sometimes you have to send in your 2nd-String guys (SEAL Team 6) so your 1st-String guys (Delta) can get some rest. You don't want to burn your 1st-String guys out.

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Frank N September 6, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Just so I'm getting this right, you last two douchebags are advocating the death of our nation's finest? You consider yourselves American? I guess that's what's awesome about the internet. You can make an off color comment like that thinking it's funny, but you wouldn't dare make that comment in public. Wait, unless Senior Cucuracha and Sad Face are members of the Westboro Baptist Church.

I love the CAG vs. DG comments you guys are making when 99% of you have never worked with either.

This thread has exemplified exactly what is going wrong with our country. The pussification of our military by people having nothing better to do than whine and complain about what our T1 guys are doing. They are doing a job at a level you couldn't even begin to comprehend. I don't know if you're envious, maybe went to selection and failed out, BUD/s duds, who knows. Your comments actually show what little comprehension you have about that community. Be proud of the job you're doing and stay in your own lane. Oh and stop apologizing for our country. Obama already did that like a groveling idiot.

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SD996 September 6, 2011 at 9:32 pm

Pay attention to this part: Do you honestly think this bike leaves the compound? It's a camp bike. Hence the MF'ing Protec on the bars.

If you have a problem with this, feel free to voice your disgust but listen to you guys. You seriously want to "hang" these guys for a little harmless humor on their part? Everyone's free to their opinions, but keep in mind you're not there, doing the job they're doing.

As mentioned earlier, it's easy to complain from the comfort of your couch.

As for you last two F**CKERS you can both burn in hell for those comments.

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Dumb Grunt September 6, 2011 at 9:41 pm

You need to do some serious research in to the history of the Civil War. Yes, slavery was part of what it was fought over, but the primary reason the Confederacy withdrew from the Union was freedom of choice. Blacks also fought for the Confederacy as well as owned slaves. It was the Union which made slavery a major issue for the war. So, the Stars and Bars to southerners(some) really means rebellion against the establishment or freedom. I am saying this because it is fact; whether I believe or not is not relevant.

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Jpanzer September 6, 2011 at 9:43 pm

You're a Goddamn idiot who can't even fathom US history, much less geopolitics and the US involvement in Afghanistan…

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Dumb Grunt September 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm

Too many are way too politically sensitive. No sense of humor. Basically, a lot of Chicken Little's. If this was done as a team prank (previously mentioned), it should be the victim's choice for his course of action, not the peanut gallery, here.

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Good lord September 6, 2011 at 10:17 pm

"2nd Finest?" How would you or the other stupid kids know anything about any of Tier 1 Assets? I'm positive DEVGRU and CAG are made up of people one thousand times more professional than you jackasses could ever dream to be.

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Frank N September 6, 2011 at 10:38 pm

Like I said above, opinions based on internet rumors and Hollywood, and 0 experience.

The Unit? Seriously? Ask a CAG guy what he thinks of the show, or better yet why Eric Haney is blacklisted
from the community.

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Bill September 7, 2011 at 4:18 am

Brilliant, Affirmative Action for SF. I guess New Breed SpecOps would be a bunch of pansies that ride on a wambulance.

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Uncle Willie September 7, 2011 at 5:47 am

Um…have you read the 1st Amendment? It protects citizens from being censored by the government, not from web administrators.

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Uncle Willie September 7, 2011 at 5:53 am

Um…Airman? You have lost this fight, and are now making your branch of service look bad by spouting useless crap. Fall back, figure out what the "shift" key is for, and pick another battle.

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reflexivefire September 7, 2011 at 7:39 am

Please enlighten us as to what experience you have working in, for, or with SOCOM.

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William C. September 7, 2011 at 10:38 am

You hope some SEAL died because you don't like his sense of humor? I don't care if you served or not, that's just sick of you.

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William C. September 7, 2011 at 10:42 am

What's with the political correctness brigade here? Shouldn't you be off shouting about how repealing DADT is a "great step forward" or some similar load of nonsense. Let the troops have their fun.

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deadhorse September 7, 2011 at 1:46 pm

I think it is hilarious that so many people got riled up over a photo. Notice it is sitting with the kickstand down? How about the fact that it looks like it is sitting in some motor pool? Just because the bike was painted and stickered as shown doesn't mean it wasn't sprayed over after the pic. It could have been a joke, people. Some blowing off steam? Sarcasm?

So many assumptions when no one can verify that it went "operational" with this scheme. Some of you guys really need to get laid. lol

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Michael b da silva September 7, 2011 at 10:45 pm

Hilarious!. Jack, you sure started something. Here i thought america had buried its racial ghosts, apparently not…. I thought south africa had problems.. Whew, them comments up there are mean fightin' words. How race and religion found its way into a silly picture of a bike amazes me.. I think we need the Winchester brothers to exorcise the demons out of that there motorcickle.

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reflexivefire September 8, 2011 at 4:30 am

I wish Brandon's article about our broken military acquisition system stirred this much debate…

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MarineNCO September 9, 2011 at 6:23 am

I saw the title about military acquisition system and I got a headache before I could start the article. Plus, it's fun to see all the keyboard warriors come out from behind there XBOX's and comment on this article.

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William C. September 8, 2011 at 9:59 am

You can argue about how correct it is all day, yet the Confederate flag is seen by many Southerners as a symbol of Southern pride/determination, rather than any sort of racial statement.

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Hammer September 7, 2011 at 10:45 pm

Really? I could make a lot of comments about how this shows X,Y, or Z about the Army and about POGs but really this just shows what a **cked up human being you are.

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William C. September 8, 2011 at 9:57 am

Oh really? That guy whose service and death got too much press just because he was a football star while many "nameless" GIs were fighting and dying without nearly the same level of attention? Soldiers who were just as much heroes as him?

The celebrity worship we have in America is far more of a problem than some soldiers blowing off steam.

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MarineNCO September 9, 2011 at 6:15 am

So, you have done multiple deployments as a Pvt? Either you are lying, or you are telling the truth and suck at this whole military thing. In either scenario, you don't rate to be taken seriously on anything that is OIF or OEF related. (Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom. Now you don't have to Google it).

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MarineNCO September 9, 2011 at 6:42 am

Hmmmmmm…… I don't know any Marine Corporals who refer to themselves as "E-4". You are entitled to an opinion, just don't pretend to be part of our "best and brightest." I'm sure you got into MARSOC because of your "never quit" attitude. Don't you have a Call of Duty game to get back to?

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USAF WX December 1, 2011 at 9:04 pm

I find it disrespectful and downright stupid to make yourself stick out more than we already do, in a country where we haven't established effective control. The military takes all kinds, so this sort of stupidity can be expected, especially when GI's get bored. I care about the image this presents of Americans, and I don't see a good image here. You wouldn't wear an infidel tab while talking to an Afghan tribal leader would you? No, because that makes you look stupid.
As for not having liberals in the military, it's a f***ing label. How about you get out and get educated, and actually think for yourself. Stop blindly following party doctrine, you're being provincialist (yes that's a real term, look it up). For that matter, why don't you join the military yourself, and serve since you seem to be eminently qualified. If you already are in the military, I feel bad, because you've failed to realize that the military is a microcosm of society. If the founding fathers had been as closed-minded as you seem to be, they'd never have told King George to go f*** himself. Free thinkers are welcome in my military any day. Remember, this nation was built on tolerance.
PS. I hope this message offended you. If it did, it means I can lump you in with all the violent, intolerant, ignorant fundamentalist extremists that you claim to hate. You've got more in common with Bin Laden and his ilk, than you realize. Think on that.

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USAF WX December 1, 2011 at 9:42 pm

Morgan, I must disagree. Go back and actually dig into the issues that culminated in the civil war. It wasn't about protecting slavery or the privileges of the plantation owners. The flag was a symbol that represent the fight for states rights, particularly the right to choose. The southern states wanted new states to choose whether or not to join the union as slave-holding states or free states. The lessons are still relevant even if the circumstances are not. The Confederate flag is still a symbol of the states rights movement, even after it was misrepresented as a symbol of racist hatred and oppression. I do agree that displaying the confederate flag has a proper time and place, and that a warzone isn't either one. This picture represents some poorly thought out, fratboy humor. Unprofessional, yes. Stupid, probably. But nothing we need to get all wrapped around the axle about. ****, I mess with my fellow airmen when they screw up. More than a few times pictures of Hasselhoff, and gay sailors end up on the backgrounds of computers because they were unattended. Professional? **** no. Still fun as ****.

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Sickened Soldier February 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm

I am greatly offended that the original poster thinks the painter went too far! How DARE YOU?! You make us grind down scriptures that were put on our guns from the United States. Everytime we make a comment or display some human emotions, you turn against us. Come over here and fight this war. Cause I dont want to fight for America anymore. If one of my christian friends saids Merry Christmas or puts a tree up in cl***.
We are violating some Åsshole's religious rights in MY OWN CHRISTIAN COUNTRY! But when one of them wants to put up a MOSQUE on 9/11 Grounds or "pray" to his fake islamic god at recess and we say something ! (GOD FORBID!) Your all over us calling US names and saying WE are wrong! If we decide to put a swastika on the bike. Whether or not you agree- you SHOULD be supporting us! What?! Are you such a coward that if your mother gets caught lying to her Bf..You'll stand there and let him beat her *** for lying? NO! (I hope not anyways) Just the same- as for people who are DYING for you-should be deemed always right in your book! We have a good idea how the poor Vietnam Vets felt by how Americans treat us. Listen- YOU come over – and fight. Atleast one of us would know what we are fighting for.

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