Here is some more action from Danao for the DIY gun nuts out there.  I asked about the strange appearance of the barrels and was told that the segments are to increase the surface area to aid the cooling process, sort of like what you have on the 60mm mortar system, or the heat synch on a computer CPU for you tech heads.  The second, and perhaps more important reason?  It’s all about looks, baby.

Oh, yeah, here are those “M4″ rifles that I owe you guys from last time:

Kit Up! contributor Jack Murphy is a former Ranger, Special Forces Soldier and is the author of the new military thriller PROMIS: Rhodesia.

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Walter October 20, 2011 at 8:45 am

I don't know about function but as far as aesthetics these pieces look great.

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SleepyDave October 20, 2011 at 8:56 am

Why does the second rifle from the top look the barrel is much longer than 20"? Also, that weird little M4/MP5 looking thing, kind of a cool idea, but something tells me its a wallhanger.

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jumper October 20, 2011 at 9:36 am

Yeah I was wondering about that one too… although it looks like it's chambered in 9mm so it could be someone's little side project there.

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joel November 8, 2013 at 10:53 pm

Could be 5.7 like the p90

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Sarge Harris October 20, 2011 at 1:17 pm

Its a KG9 sir! and trust me it aint a wall hangger!

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Vince March 4, 2014 at 11:29 pm

Hi sarg, i just wanna ask where did u see the kg9? Im very interested. Hope u can drop by an email. ThNks

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nchavis October 20, 2011 at 9:22 am

Those segmented barrels look sweet, but don't they serve the same purpose as traditional barrel fluting? Also, wouldn't normal flutes that run along the length of the barrel be more rigid compared to segments like this? I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade or anything. I am genuinely curious.

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reflexivefire October 20, 2011 at 9:49 am

No, I think you are on target here.

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S&WBt October 21, 2011 at 7:24 am

It would be just as rigid as a barrel with the same min diameter, And from a heat transfer point of view this looks like it has so much more surface area then your standard fluted barrel. you'd need dimensions and temps to figure it out but this seems like it would transfer heat much better. heck you could make the fins a little thinner, big enough to stay tough, you could add more transfer surface. Seems like great idea for machine guns too

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Jeff October 20, 2011 at 9:25 am

So… do they buy the polymer or do they have a mold?

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L-V-I-P vegas June 29, 2013 at 1:44 am

they're made and bought equally, it is relatively easy for a working gunsmith from there to make something like that. question is, did they use a strong polymer to make the components?

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Lance October 20, 2011 at 11:31 am

Like the sniper rifle at the end of the line in the first pic. However im never a fan of 5.56mm in sniper roles .308 .338 or .300 win mag are far better for long range shots. But for varmiter rifles they work fine.

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Sarge Harris October 20, 2011 at 1:20 pm

I believe they do make those caliber Lance.

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Cc at Cc October 20, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Whoa. Amazing stuff! That looks more like a heavily modified Tech-9 than an M-4 Carbine.

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MANIAC October 20, 2011 at 1:30 pm

That KG9 looks really cool

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Tactidork October 20, 2011 at 1:54 pm

If I remember correctly, civilian ownership of large caliber (> .308) firearms and ammunition is difficult. The 5.56 round is much more available and easier to acquire, which probably explains why those rifles are 5.56. Most of the .308 ammo in circulation is old legacy surplus or reloads. I don't believe there are NFA type rules for rifles, SBR's, etc so almost all these guns are select fire. A properly registered rifle in the Philippines is not regulated by physical attributes. Ammo sales and ownership is limited, but in the rural areas the limits are generally not followed.

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ABRO October 21, 2011 at 3:31 am
Riceball October 21, 2011 at 8:57 am

Heat synch? What does the heat synch with/to?

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Nobody October 21, 2011 at 4:59 am

Jack, i like the book reminds me of my freelance days in Chitado, Angola running up and down the Kunene river. Many SWAPO put down.

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reflexivefire October 21, 2011 at 6:44 am

In the SADF? I'm writing about a 4-Recce operation right now that took place in that area.

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SleepyDave October 21, 2011 at 10:43 am

I'm not so sure. I'm looking at reference photos, and there's a lot of things that aren't quite right. The curve on the back end of the upper receiver is wrong (it should be a diagonal plane), the magazine well is missing the diagonal chunk, and then there's all the AR bits. Now, I'll give you those, I'm sure these guys have had years to make major changes, but if it is a KG-9, its an extremely modified one with major changes made to structural elements. The fact that the magazine is curved is really cosmetic, so I'm not going to debate that, but it just doesn't look *quite* right.

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TomcatTCH October 21, 2011 at 1:29 pm

the upper rear of the ergo looking grip is just weird/wrong. Seems that the "lower" is too short, but the rear part of the grip disappears behind the sling mount, but the angels are all wonky. Maybe it's wider than an AR lower?

The clonepoint's mount doesn't appear to be mounted to anything, in fact it's tilted upwards, the rear is closer to the receiver than the front. Was this thing built without sights at all? At least the clonepoint should be able to clamp onto the handguard.

It might or might not be an AR pattern trigger group, but what's the front pin of the three for? And no rear take down pin?

Strange little toy there.

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nobody October 23, 2011 at 5:31 am

No more like day labor for hire if you get that?, The golden age in Africa when it was ok to do those things. 77-80

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reflexivefire October 23, 2011 at 6:17 am

I miss everything.

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nobody October 23, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Me to

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JSCS October 24, 2011 at 6:31 am

Heat sink? Wow, how 1914…..let's go with the Lewis Gun, eh?

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NavyVet68 October 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm

The traitors in the senate will ban these guns and Savage Bama will send these firearms to Uganda and his home town in Kenya to help the Muslim cause to "Change America" "Yes he can" take this amazing country down

When can we expect the military to take action and try the guilty senators and congress for treason ?

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Rhys Firth October 30, 2011 at 11:57 pm

EH? What do OBanana and the US Senate have to do with firearms in the Philippines?

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oscar dadula jr. November 15, 2011 at 9:23 am

guys, DANAO is a city in the province of Cebu, Philippines. I live about 40klicks south in the city of Cebu. so maybe, this will give you an idea that i have an idea of what i'm talking about. first of all, Danao is littered with cottage industries that produces guns. this is highly illegal but most of the time, law enforcement looks the other way. why? because most law enforcers and soldiers in the philippines prefer to use the 1911a1. imported guns are very expensive and all the legal firearms that are made and/or imported into the country is passes through the PNP-FED. a round is fired from each firearm and the PNP has the slugs and casing on record. Therefore, local police or military who does wetwork, usually purchase their weapons in danao. even lowly privates who are in the straight and narrow purchase their sidearms in danao. because it is very cheap and those are the only firearms they can afford on a meager salary. again, you might find this to be very unusual, but you have to remember that the philippines is a front in the ongoing war on terror. so every soldier must be prepared to defend himself at all times. mostly in urban areas, soldiers are prohibited from carrying their issued weapon unless the situation requires them to do so then they jump through hoops and they can take their weapons off-camp.
quality-wise, weapons made in danao run from really crappy to highly reliable. it all depends on the gunsmith who made them since each part is handcrafted. the caveat is that, the parts dimension is not standard and is therefore not interchangeable. this explains also why some of you guys noticed inconsistencies on the pictures. my experience with their high-end 1911's is that if you use a commercial quality mag, the guns won't even hiccup. no break-in problems too!
pet project? definitely! you go to danao with some wild-assed design and they'd probably make it for you. yes they can!
i hope this had been enlightening

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D'Marr April 18, 2014 at 2:52 am

you maybe right,,,first of all im from danao,,,,militia's &police have their guns maintainance from danao or ordered from danao city,,,not all gun manufacturer their are all illegals…..i for myself is a gunsmith by blood,…

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Al O'Connor May 1, 2012 at 9:14 pm

They resemble Japanese Namu MG's from WW11.

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draggie65 June 22, 2012 at 11:24 pm

how much in Phil. peso is ana M4 clone made in danao?

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rad August 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm
mel December 29, 2012 at 3:35 pm
L-V-I-P vegas June 29, 2013 at 1:50 am

if these guys came to America if and when a gun ban started then these people would make a killing, especially if they know how to mod a semi-auto into full auto for a cheap price to

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oscar d June 29, 2013 at 11:51 pm

that would be a piece of cake

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Samir September 11, 2013 at 8:58 am

How to order?

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Samir September 11, 2013 at 9:01 am

Meron ba kyong k3 na homemade?kung wla nman magkakano iyung m4 niyo na standard size 14.5 barrel?

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samir September 11, 2013 at 9:04 am

How to order?

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Samir September 11, 2013 at 10:16 am

How to make orders.

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newrij March 16, 2014 at 7:50 am

Look how skilled and creative these gunsmiths are??? Despite lacking of quality tools and materials, they have been producing guns that might compete with the quality and reliability of those that are commercially produced.. How much more if they are supported with the Philippine Government with quality tools and materials and provided with the proper training to enhance these creative minds gun-smiting skills??? Do you think we still need to spend billions of pesos importing guns for our Uniformed Personnel??? It would not only boost the capability of our Military personnel but will also give a legal way to our citizens to earn a living as well.

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